“In Argentina, 30,000 people didn’t go missing. That figure was negotiated on a bargaining table,” said Dario Lopérfido, a close aide to Macri who serves as culture chief for the city of Buenos Aires and is the director of the famous opera house Teatro Colón.
Lopérfido said that he has based his information on research carried out by Graciela Fernández Meijide, a well-known politician and director of a human rights organization, and whose son also disappeared during the Dirty War.
Fernández Meijide estimates that the figure is closer to 9,000.
“We are still receiving complaints about grandchildren who were born in captivity because more people are willing to come forward and tell the truth”
International human rights organizations have always used 30,000 as the official number but new questions on how many people actually disappeared have ignited a national debate.
Jorge Videla, the late dictator who overthrew the Peronist government in 1976, always maintained that about 8,000 people were victims, but nobody believed him.
Estela de Carlotto, one of the directors of the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo – an association that searches for stolen children from the era – said she is upset by all the questioning.
“We have put the number at 30,000 because those who committed genocide actually killed 45,000. We are still receiving complaints about grandchildren who were born in captivity because more people are willing to come forward and tell the truth. Fudging with figures is an evil thing,” she said.
The government has been trying to play down the controversy because it fears that it can only serve to revive the bias that surfaced in many leftist sectors against Macri during last year’s election campaign.
“The issue about the disappeared should be treated cautiously. The government doesn’t want to ignite a row over the numbers”
Macri has always been seen as an ultra-right conservative but, with the help of political advisors, he was able to soften his image and go on to win the presidential elections.
Marcos Peña, one of his closest aides, met on Wednesday with De Carlotto at the Casa Rosada presidential palace. The head of the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo has been close to the Kirchners and very critical of Macri. The president didn’t meet with her, but the invitation to Casa Rosada demonstrated Macri’s gesture to encourage dialogue.
“The numbers aren’t important,” said Claudio Avruj, Macri’s human rights secretary, in an interview with EL PAÍS. “The figure 30,000 is the number established by society and it is symbolic.
“It is true that CONADEP [the National Commission for Missing Persons] has referred to 9,000 but there are still a lot of pending trials. The issue about the disappeared should be treated cautiously. The government doesn’t want to ignite a row over the numbers,” Avruj said.
English version by Martin Delfín.